Is Goku Really That Strong?

Goku is the main protagonist of the long-running Dragon Ball series and probably the most well-known anime character of all time, thus I really don’t need to give him an introduction.

Goku is depicted as this unstoppable beast of a martial artist. When the going gets tough, the Z-fighters go to Goku to solve their problems. He’s typically the only one who can stand up to the ever more powerful villains that seem to want to kill him all the time. And even when he’s not strong enough to take them down, he pushes himself until that becomes possible.

So in the Dragon Ball universe, Goku is pretty much the top tier ass-kicker. Compared to all his companions, he is leaps and bounds above them in power. Even Vegeta, Goku’s rival Saiyan and second-most powerful fighter, always seems to be miles and miles behind Goku.

But I gotta wonder. Is Goku really as strong as the shows make him out to be? Because for the most part. Goku gets huge advantages over his comrades, mainly because he let’s them do all the hard parts, while he sits back and watches from a safe distance. So despite usually being the hero that comes out on top each story arc, he really isn’t all that deserving of it.

Allow me to explain, by going through a large amount of Goku’s battles.

Pilaf:

Goku is captured by him and only breaks loose by turning into a giant ape. Granted he beats Pilaf multiple times in the future, but their first run in he nearly dies by the shrimp.

pilaf ape

Jackie Chun:

Goku loses to him in the World Martial Arts Tournament

jackie beats goku

General Blue:

Goku fails to actually defeat him. The only things that save him from death are Bulma’s advances on Blue and a collapsing cave.

general blue bulma

Mercenary Tau:

Goku gets obliterated, and only lives by a stroke of luck. Sure he beats him later, but only after some hard training.

goku vs tau

Red Ribbon Army:

I’ll give him that one. Though that was like the equivalent of Bruce Lee knocking down a beehive with a bee suit on and armed with bee spray.

goku vs red ribbon

Tien:

Goku loses to him at the World Martial Arts Tournament

goku lose against tien

King Piccolo:

Goku gets beaten up by him a few times, and only barely manages to defeat him in the end, even after going through great lengths to gain a lot of strength.

goku losing to king piccolo

Piccolo:

Goku barely manages to win this fight in the World Martial Arts Tournament, so I guess he’s not a total wuss. But Piccolo had to fight Krillin and Kami before taking on Goku. While he was able to defeat them easily, they gave him more trouble than expected, thus he had to use up more energy, especially when reversing the Evil Containment Wave.

Goku had to fight Tien, who he beat easily, but with some effort, and then had a nice break against Chi-Chi, who posed no challenge at all. So Piccolo was clearly the more fatigued fighter going into their match.

goku vs piccolo

Raditz:

Goku flat out loses, and only manages to actually help kill Raditz by holding him down while Piccolo deals out the only attack between them powerful enough to kill Raditz. And Goku dies. So yeah. Weak.

goku dying against raditz

Nappa

Goku wins this fight easily, but only because Nappa had been fighting for a very long time, taking many attacks from a whole lot of fighters and using up a lot of energy in the process.

goku beats nappa

Vegeta:

He loses spectacularly. Only with the combined powers of himself, Krillin, Gohan, and Yajirobe, and extreme luck, does Vegeta finally go down.

goku kicked by vegeta

Ginyu Force:

Goku beats Recoome in one shot. Like Nappa, Recoome had taken a lost of abuse and expelled a large amount of energy, so sorry Goku, not that impressive.

Sure he managed to defeat Burter easily enough. But was he really all that strong? They always boasted how fast he was, so he probably wasn’t very strong. So as long as Goku could catch him, knocking him out shouldn’t be too difficult.

Jeice, well, he just seems like a big wuss, and is easily defeated by Vegeta later on, so that just shows Goku’s not so great.

And Captain Ginyu? Goku loses to him without them practically even fighting.

goku after body change

Frieza:

Frieza barely even tries in this fight, and completely obliterates Goku. And this is after Frieza has been fighting for a very long time, getting beat up a whole lot, and transforming three times, something that takes up a whole lot of energy.

Even after turning Super Saiyan, which only happens because the ones who counted on him to protect them die, Goku still barely manages to win, and only does because Frieza’s cut down by his own attack. So his own power could destroy him. Not Goku’s.

And krikey! Goku wasn’t even strong enough to kill him with a final blow. Frieza lived through that, and a planet exploding, while cut in two. So Goku, you don’t impress me.

goku vs frieza

Android 19:

Goku loses. Blame his heart condition all you want. But he fought first, which he hardly ever does, and just couldn’t win.

goku vs android 19

Cell:

Goku fights first and loses. He can’t even beat a Cell Jr.

goku vs cell

Pikkon:

They tie in Other-World Tournament. Jeez, the guy can’t even legitimately beat some no-name dead guy in a filler episode.

goku other world tmt

Yakkon:

So Goku wins this fight. But that’s because Yakkon isn’t all that strong. Like at all. He just hides in the dark, and uses his opponents blindness against them, which obviously means he’s compensating for his lack of strength.

yakkon

Majin Vegeta:

He loses. Sure he was holding back, but that’s his problem.

majin vegeta knocks out goku

Majin Buu:

This one’s a little complicated, as he fights he so many times in different forms.

He draws against fat Buu but later claims he could have beaten him, but wasn’t trying to. Yeah, keep telling yourself that, Goku.

He beats Buu viciously when fused with Vegeta, so that doesn’t count.

And he gets wrecked against Kid Buu, though again claims he could have beaten him if he had gone all out at the start of the fight.

He eventually does beat Buu, only after Vegeta and fat Buu hold him off for him so he could gather energy. But Goku can’t take credit, because the brilliant stategy to beat Buu was orchestrated by Vegeta, the butt-ton of energy required to destroy Buu did not belong to Goku, and he only managed to successfully overpower Buu with said energy after being healed by the eternal dragon. So yeah, not really Goku’s win.

goku vs kid buu

Beerus:

Goku loses. But he puts up the best fight among all the Z-fighters because he hides in the shadows while he watches all his friends get the hell beat out them so he can develop a strategy that he fails to come up with anyway. He also needs the power from five other Saiyans to become a Super Saiyan God to be able to stand up to Beerus, so not his own doing. And he still loses.

And let’s face it. Beerus was only ever hit by Goku because Vegeta punched him so damn hard that it shook up the Egyptian cat so much that he couldn’t focus when it came time to fighting Goku. Also, Beerus wasn’t even trying.

goku vs beerus

Golden Frieza:

He loses. The only hope he had of winning was because Frieza ran out of energy. Before that, he was in big trouble. And he still lost. And he would have died had Whis not saved the day, giving Goku another chance to save the world.

golden frieza vs goku

Frost:

He loses.

goku lost

Hit:

The only reason he does well against Hit is because Vegeta is used as a guinea pig. Watching Vegeta fight him allowed him to learn his Time-Skipping technique, but only after Whis explained it to him. Something Vegeta did not have the luxury of. And Goku still loses.

And Hit kills him immediately in their second fight.

hit vs goku

Goku Black/Zamasu:

He gets repeatedly destroyed by this pair. He actually never even manages to defeat them.

goku black zamasu goku

Bergamo:

Okay, so Goku wins this one. Big deal. They aren’t even in the same league. It’s like a 20-year-old punching a 10-year-old in the face.

goku vs bergamo

Jiren:

Goku fights and beats a lot of fighters in the Tournament of Power, but we’ll just focus on the main antagonist, Jiren. Long story short, Goku loses to him several times.

jiren beats goku

So I covered a lot of his fights, but not nearly all of them. These were mostly some of the bigger, more noteable ones.

The fact is, Goku only wins by joining the fight late, to take on fatigued fighters or else watching others fight first, and usually can only win with help of a handful of others.

So you are a great big wuss Goku!

 

 

Master Roshi Dragon Ball Spin-Off Series

Wouldn’t this be a fascinating thing?

In Dragon Ball, especially in the first few seasons, Master Roshi is this mysterious master of martial arts who is without question the most powerful man on the planet. And what makes him even more intriguing is that he is well past his prime.

There are many things about his past that are worth seeing. Master Roshi has many objects that beg origin stories on how he came across them, and there are many events mentioned that need to be expanded upon.

They delve slightly into his past, but we need a full show now! It could start with him training under Mutaito with Shen and just show him progress through his long life. I mean, the man is like 500 years old or something. That’s a lot of potential content.

Things I would like to see are a more developed relationship with his sister, fortune-teller Baba, and best friend Shen.

baba

How he found the fountain of youth

How he obtained Baby Gamera and the Bansho Fan

baby-gamera

The first invasion attempt of King Piccolo

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His climb to the top of Korrin’s Tower and the three years he spent there and when he got the nimbus cloud

How he developed the Kamehameha Wave

How he learned to push his limits beyond that of human potential

Why he became the Turtle Hermit

How he learned to make his muscles huge at will

roshi max

When he became renowned as the strongest man in the world

These are all just some things about his life that could make for some exciting episodes.

It could go up to him taking on Gohan and Ox King as students and then focus on those two and their back stories a bit as well, and then end the show around the time Gohan finds Goku, thus nicely tying it right into Dragon Ball.

It wouldn’t be a show like Z and Super with big powerups and explosions, but more straight martial arts action with some epic parts thrown in.

I hope one day this becomes a real thing, because I think it would be a fun ride to see one of Dragon Ball’s most intriguing and pervy characters grow into the personality and life that we know so well.